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[aiculedtzu]

Ce parere aveti de noul AUDI A8?

[andrei041]

Hai sa fie si niste pict, desi cred ca toti stiu despre ce e vb!

http://195.241.99.17.../a8_2002_01.jpg

http://195.241.99.17.../a8_2002_02.jpg

http://195.241.99.17.../a8_2002_04.jpg


http://195.241.99.17.../a8_2002_07.jpg

Cred ca astea sunt de ajuns!

[andrei041]

Pai la mine cred ca la limuzine ar veni ordinea : BMW Seria7, A8, Phaeton si S-class, ultimele la ff mica diferentza! Parca am uitat eu ceva...da acum nu imi dau seama ce...

[aiculedtzu]

Dragii mei dragi,

Frumoasa masina. Nu am ce sa spun. Dar pentru inceput hai sa ne rezumam la design.
La fel ca si in cazul lui VW Phaeton, Audi se pare ca a fost extrem de coservatoare. Gurile rele spun ca este un A4 mai mare, la fel ca si in cazul lui Phaeton care a fost poreclit "BIG PASSAT". Ce ziceti de asta?

Numai Bine

[andrei041]

Daca la Phaeton e destul adevar cand ii zici BIG PASSAT, la A8 nu mi se pare ca ar fi doar un A4 la scara marita! Mie mi se pare ca are un design independent, de sine statator!
Uite si A4, spre comparatie!

http://www.vwvortex....0_10/front1.jpg

http://www.km77.com/...3-4tras_mov.jpg
Comparati ai apreciati!

Da de asa ceva ce ati zice? Nu cred ca e chiar offtopic, asa ca imi permit :
http://www.nordicaud...ifiedByCerw.jpg

[aiculedtzu]

Dragii mei Dragi,

Asemanarea nu este asa de mare ca si in cazul lui Passat - Phaeton, dar ea exista. Oricum, dupa parea mea, VW in loc sa realizeze Phaetonul, mai bine ar fi investit toti banii acestia in noul A8. Tzin minte in 1994 cand a aparut pe piata A8-ul, era ceva extrem de revolutionar, acum insa mi se pare mult mai comun. Dar chiar si asa este o masina superba, dar ar fi putut fi si mai si ...

Numai Bine

[andrei041]

Aicule, pai daca te uiti bine la gama Audi, toata imparte anumite elemente de design, si asta o sa fie si mai evident dupa ce vor fi lansate noile A3 si A6. Pacat ca nu am acum poze cu ele, da daca gasesc postez! Si la alea se vor folosi cam acelasi gen de faruri si stopuri, iar linia desigului din cate am vazut eu ca fi comuna, insa cei de la Audi stiu cum sa ii imprime fiecarui model o personalitate aparte.
La faza cu Phaetonul iti dau dreptate, mai ales ca eu zic ca A8 si Phaeton sunt concurente directe ... desi in cazul asta poate e mai bine cu 2 modele ale aceluiasi concern ... nu sunt astia chiar prosti...au gandit ei ceva inainte sa ia decizile astea!

[andrei041]

Esti subiectiv ... clar
Linii ata de perfecte? e evidenta subiectivitatea.
Cat despre Seria7, unde ai vazut asta cu jumatate din vanzarile preconizate?(nu ca nu te-am crede, da vrea si ochiu meu sa vada) Eu ma uit prin Buc si la masini de lux noi, BMW Seria7 rulez categoric. De fapt acum nu se mai bate decat cu S-class(da asta a cam obosit), ca actualul A8 cred ca nici nu se mai vinde.
Poate in afara o merge mai prost cu vanzarile, insa eu cred ca au scazut cumpararile de masini de lux, ptr ca in Europa nu prea mai sunt alte candidate serioase in afara de Seris7 si S. Si cum am mai zis, acum eu cred ca BMW rulez!
D-aia as fi curios sa vad statistica aia cu vanzarile seriei 7.

[voinea]

am mers in A8 4.2 quattro din 99. Bijuterie de masina. Asta nou din partea mea e top si el.
Recunosc ca nu pot decat sa le visez pe astea dar ce sa zic, Imi plac si Phaeton si S Class si seria 7. Toate au ceva deosebit tehnica, motoare, design (unul din spate altul din fatza) ce sa mai zic ASTA E LUXUL !
imi plac farurile actuale foarte mult la A8.
imi place pretul (mi se pare mie dar e mai mic decat la BMW si Merc ?)
Daca as fi director probabil ca nu m-as multumi cu A6 si as lua A8 http://www.garajul.r...tyle_emoticons/default/001.gif http://www.garajul.r...tyle_emoticons/default/001.gif

[aiculedtzu]

De exemplu in state Seria 7 se vinde mult mai bine ca si S-klasee sau ca si A8 ! Chiar ieri citeam undeva pe net de vanzarile lui mertz si bmw pe noibriembrie 2002 in US. Si BMW vinde cu aprox 20 % mai multe modele in US ca si Mercedes !

Numai Bine

[andrei041]

Originally posted by Titus
Parerea mea este ca A8-u nu are un design original, nu are nimic inovator in design. Faruri patrate or avut si daciile. La tehnic, ma gandesc ca ii super, dar nu la design.

Titus, acum ai zis si tu o vorba, ca sa faci alea 100 de post-uri, sa iti ui si tu avatar!
Pai la faruri, eu deja cred ca au fost folosite toate formele posibile, deci normal ca tot cele care au fost folosite vor fi puse si pe modelele actuale (asta in cazul in care nu vor sa socheze, ceea ce se pare ca nu e indicat in clasa lux!)

[aiculedtzu]

Dragilor,

Stie cineva ... ceva ... de o viitoare versiune S8? :question:

Numai bine

[voinea]

da, oare ce motor va avea ?
mai fac W8 sau W10 ?

Originally posted by aiculedtzu
Dragilor,
Stie cineva ... ceva ... de o viitoare versiune S8? :question:
Numai bine

[andrei041]

Cam asta am gasit eu:
Powerful, dynamic exterior design and overtly driver-oriented interior design, with a flair that combines sport with luxury
At launch, two high-performance V8 engines:
4.2 quattro: power output: 246 kW (335 bhp) at 6500 rpm; torque: 430 Nm at 3500 rpm. Top speed: 250 km/h. Acceleration from 0-100 km/h: 6.3 seconds
3.7 quattro: power output: 206 kW (280 bhp) at 6500 rpm; torque: 360 Nm at 3750 rpm. Top speed: 250 km/h. Acceleration from 0-100 km/h: 7.3 seconds
6-speed tiptronic with Dynamic Shift Program and Sport program
quattro permanent four-wheel drive
Aluminium running gear with 4-link front suspension and trapezoidal-link rear suspension
Adaptive air suspension with continuously variable damper settings. Choice of three modes for individual spring/damper characteristics produce optimum operating dynamics and maximum comfort; additional lift mode for improved ground clearance on uneven terrain
As an option: adaptive air suspension - sport, a sports suspension system again with three modes, for overtly sporty adjustment of the suspension to the driver's preferences, plus lift mode
New high-performance brake system with electromechanical parking brake
Automatic tyre pressure monitoring system
Newly developed ASF-type aluminium body now offering 60 percent better rigidity
Optimised safety technology with two-stage airbag activation for the driver and front passenger and the Audi SIDEGUARD head-level airbag system - as standard. New: active head restraints at the front
Adaptive light, an innovative form of lighting technology with cornering light
Adaptive cruise control, radar-assisted distance control
Integrated MMI Multi Media Interface operating concept with self-evident, consistent operating logic
Advanced key access and authorisation system - One-touch memory, driver-oriented personalisation


Dar astea erau scisre pe 13 iulie, e posibil sa fi pus si alte motoare!

[EvilOne]

Pai o sa fie un entry-level de 3.2 v6 240cp si ceva TDI: V8 3.3 se pare ca e sigur.Cred ca o sa aibe si un v8 de aprox 4.0 ca sa concureze cu BMW si S. Plus W12 care se pare ca va avea injectie directa. Chiar sint curios daca o sa existe un S8, desi ala vechi se lasa batut de W12.

Din pacate w8 a iesit din productie si oricum nu era destinat pentru gama Audi. Mi se parea excelent mai ales la capitolul compactitate.

[andrei041]

Iata un reportaj despre noul A8, un review din Road&Track (asta e americana revista, nu, cel putin dupa nume ...)


Arguably the best-looking car in its class, the first-generation Audi A8 managed only a very small share of the market. This will not be the case for the new A8. When the full range of engines and the long-wheelbase version are available, Audi expects to triple A8 sales. This despite facing Mercedes-Benz, BMW and additional competition from the closely related Volkswagen Phaeton.

To widen the gap with the VW, Audi has endeavored to make the more than 700-lb.-lighter A8 a more agile and higher-performance model, in other words, a real "driver's car," without forsaking the comfort and equipment expected in a top luxury automobile.

Light weight has certainly not come at the cost of luxury, space or workmanship. The seats are upholstered in high-quality light-colored leather, and several types of wood are available for decorating the dash, the inserts on doors and the console. In the rear, the seat contoured for two passengers offers more than adequate, but not really generous, leg room. Those who want more will have to wait for the long version of the A8.

Audi has learned a lot about aluminum body construction and this knowledge has been incorporated into the new model. The number of large cast-aluminum components has been reduced from 50 to 29, but they now make up 34 instead of 22 percent of the entire body structure.

The overall dimensions of the new A8 are little changed, but the wheelbase has been increased by 2.5 in., the amount the front wheels have been moved forward to reduce the front overhang and front-weight bias in the interest of increased agility.

Styling is evolutionary, rather than radical, fortunately because the first-generation A8 was and still is a beautiful car. The new model is crisper, but certainly does not make the old car look obsolete. It is aerodynamically very efficient with a CD of 0.27.

Production begins with the well known 40-valve V-8s of 3.7 and 4.2 liters, of which only the 4.2 will come to America. The engines now feature variable intake cam timing for increased power and lower emissions. The power of the 4.2 is now 335 bhp, an increase of 25 bhp. The 6.0-liter W-12 will come later.

The front suspension with four aluminum transverse links per wheel and the multilink rear suspension remain in principle as before, but four pneumatic struts with incorporated hydraulic shock absorbers replace the steel springs. An electric air pump and a pressure reservoir provide the air required for the control of the struts, which automatically keep the static ride height constant, regardless of load carried. Ride height and damping are controlled by an electronic control unit receiving messages from sensors reacting to front and rear wheel movements, to body motion, to the car's speed, to the steering angle and to the pressure in the braking system.

There are four suspension modes: Automatic, Dynamic, Comfort and Lift, the last to be used only on rough going and special circumstances.

The normal ride height is 4.7 in., irrespective of the car's load, but if the car is driven for more than 30 seconds at more than 75 mph, the height is reduced by 1.0 in. in the interest of lower drag and enhanced stability. In the Dynamic mode, the damping is firmer and the static ride height is reduced to 3.9 in. and further lowered by 2.0 in. at speeds of more than 75 mph. A first-class boulevard ride is provided by the Comfort mode, which retains the standard 4.7-in. ride height regardless of the speed, but is clearly underdamped at high speeds.

The car I drove had the optional sport suspension, but even in the Dynamic mode, harshness was never evident and the low-speed ride remained more than acceptable, even for a luxury car. Whatever the mode, road noise is always well filtered and even at 120-plus mph, wind noise remains very low.

The test route in the Barcelona area included some excellent fast winding stretches with good visibility, which revealed the car's excellent handling and suspension control in both the automatic and dynamic modes. Understeer is reduced to a minimum and the car feels quite agile despite its size.

The new Audi A8 could well be the finest luxury car in today's world.



Sa aiba dreptate oamenii astia? Chiar ar trebui sa se simta serios amenintati BMW si Mercedes ? Ca design arate bine ... insa la nivelul asta conteaza si motorizarile, confortul ... si se pare ca si la astea sta bine noul A8. Asa ca ferea ... incoming winner!

[andrei041]

A8 d-asta nou ? Am inteles ca a fost pus in vanzare, de fapt am si vazut unul de Craciun, insa nu stiam ca il importa si la noi.
Pai daca zici ca ti-e prieten, da si tu o tura cu el si zi-ne impresiile ... daca ai avea cum, sa faci si o comparatie intre el si S, 7 nou ... ar fi super!

[EvilOne]

Spining ia vezi cum e cu luminatul ala in lateral, ca ma "arde" chestia asta. Am vazut in reviste cum e dar sint curios cum se comporta in relitate.

Astept cu nerabdare W12 si TDi.