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Scris 18 august 2007 - 01:02

As vrea un laptop cat mai ieftin, insa destul de fiabil si cu o configuratie acceptabila.

http://www.shopit.ro...q-nx7300-t2450/
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Procesor
Tehnologie procesor Centrino
Tip procesor Intel Core Duo
Model procesor T2450
Frecventa procesor(MHz) 2000
Memorie L2 Cache (KB) 2048
Front Side Bus (MHz) 533
Memorie RAM
Memorie standard (MB) 1024
Memorie maxima (MB) 4096
Frecventa memorie (MHz) 533
Tip Memorie DDR2
Unitati de stocare
Capacitate HDD (GB) 120
Viteza HDD (rpm) 5400
Tip HDD SATA
Unitate Optica DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL Drive
Display & Video
Tip display WXGA
Diagonala LCD (inch) 15.4
Rezolutie optima 1280 x 800
Chipset video Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
Memorie video (MB) 224(maxim)
Tip memorie video Shared
Multimedia
Difuzoare stereo incorporate
Microfon incorporat
Comunicatii
Modem 56K ITU V.92
Retea 10/100 Mbps
Wireless 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth da
Interfete 1 x Type I/II PC Card slot
3 x USB 2.0,
1 x IEEE 1394(4pin),
1 x audio in/out,
1 x VGA,
1 x RJ-11,
1 x RJ-45
Alimentare
Acumulator 6-cell Li-Ion Battery
Software
Sistem de operare FreeDos

In afara de iesire S-video si de designul anost, nu prea ii lipseste nimic. E o configuratie prea buna la 2100 roni. Ce parere aveti? Ce minusuri semnificative ar avea? Ce variante alternative ar exista?

Ar merita sa dau 4.5m in plus pe asa ceva?

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Tehnologie procesor Centrino
Tip procesor Intel Core 2 Duo
Model procesor T7100
Frecventa procesor(MHz) 1830
Memorie L2 Cache (KB) 2048
Front Side Bus (MHz) 800
Memorie RAM
Memorie standard (MB) 1024
Memorie maxima (MB) 4096
Frecventa memorie (MHz) 667
Tip Memorie DDR2
Unitati de stocare
Capacitate HDD (GB) 120
Viteza HDD (rpm) 5400
Tip HDD SATA
Unitate Optica DVD+/- RW
Display & Video
Tip display WXGA
Diagonala LCD (inch) 15.4
Rezolutie optima 1280 x 800
Chipset video Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Memorie video (MB) 384(maxim)
Tip memorie video Shared
Multimedia
Difuzoare stereo incorporate
Microfon incorporat
Comunicatii
Modem 56K ITU V.92
Retea 10/100 Mbps
Wireless 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth da
Interfete 1 x One Type I/II PC Card slot
1 x RJ-45
1 x RJ-11
1 x VGA
1 x audio in/out
2 x USB 2.0
Alimentare
Acumulator 6-cell Li-Ion Battery
Autonomie de lucru maxima (ore) 3
Software
Sistem de operare Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic

http://www.marketonl...o-t2450-20-ghz/

Aici e chiar mai ieftin, fix 21m.

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Scris 18 august 2007 - 12:26

astept sa primesti tu cateva raspunsuri si ma bag si eu... Am o ocazia care cam expira in cateva zeci de ore si vreau si eu un sfat. Astept...
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Scris 18 august 2007 - 01:07

http://www.notebookr...eview=HP nx7300

The HP Compaq nx7300 represents the latest available notebook in the HP nx series. The nx7300 is a Core 2 Duo budget laptop with a 15.4” widescreen display. Although it doesn't offer anything out of the ordinary, design simplicity and solid build quality make it a formidable contender in the sub $1,100 price range. Obviously, HP with this models targets students and small businesses with a tight budget. Configurations vary greatly, you can get anything from a Celeron M up to a Core 2 Duo T7200 processor.

The configuration of the reviewed HP nx7300 is as follows:

* Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66 Ghz
* OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (SP2)
* Hard Drive: Toshiba 120 GB 5400 rpm
* RAM: 2 GB DDRII SDRAM (667MHz) (2x1GB), max 4 GB
* Screen: 15.4” WXGA (1280x800) BrightView (glossy) display
* Graphics: Intel GMA950
* Optical Drive: multi-format DVD/CD burner
* Wireless: Intel 3945 Pro 802.11 a/b/g, Bluetooth
* Dimensions: 30mm x 357mm x 260mm
* Weight: 2.54kg
* Battery: 6 cell (43Wh)

Reasons for buying:

I was looking for a reliable laptop, mainly for software development. It needed to have a good price-to-value ratio and good connectivity options. This is my second laptop, as I was previously the proud owner of a Dell e1505. In my decision process I also considered the Toshiba M100-221, Acer 5633 and Asus F3T. The Acer had poor battery life, the Asus an AMD processor I didn’t want and the Toshiba was too small at 14.1”.

Where and How Purchased:

This laptop was bought at the local computer store for 950 Euros + 120 Euros for a 1GB memory upgrade. It has a 1-year limited warranty. I think I got a good deal, because in Serbia online shopping is still in an early phase of development, so internet coupons and discounts are in the very, very distant future. In the U.S. and certain other countries it can be purchased from HP.com online.

The design is very similar to other laptops in the nx series. It will not win any beauty pageants, or turn the heads of your classmates. It is very simple and modest (personally, I like this kind of design). The entire laptop is black, except the lid cover, which is a dark gray. There are speakers situated on both sides of the keyboard, so they don't ruin your typing experience. The main exhaust is on the left side so the hot air won't bother you when you use an external USB mouse (if you are right handed that is). Overall, the HP engineers did a god job with the functionality and practical implementation in designing the laptop. The nx7300 is very thin and light considering its screen size. Don't let its size fool you though, the build quality is great, a big step forward from my previous Dell e1505. It is made of sturdy, solid plastic, and it gives a feeling of sturdiness. The LCD is well protected and doesn't ripple when the lid is firmly pressed. The hinges seem sturdy and well damped.

The HP nx7300 has a 15.4” WXGA (1280x800) BrightView screen. I didn't expect too much from the screen, so I was very surprised by how bright it was. The colors are very crisp and vivid. However, I was a little bit disappointed with viewing angles. The horizontal viewing angle is acceptable, but the vertical angles are very poor. Even with a small augmentation of angle the colors distort really fast.

The resolution of 1280x800 is more convenient for a 14.1” display, the sweet spot for 15.4” is 1440x900 in my opinion.

The Screen has light leakage all over the place, but surprisingly this is unnoticeable when I am doing regular work and can only really be seen on an all black background. The glossy display is ideal for indoor use when watching movies on it, but it is practically useless for outdoors or places with a strong light source behind you due to the amount of reflection.

Speakers:

The speakers are acceptable for everyday use. This is no multimedia notebook, so don't expect too much out of them. The sound is crisp, but lacks volume. I use an external Logitech X230 speaker set when watching DVD's.

Processor and Performance:

Although this laptop is equipped with a basic 1.66GHz Core 2 Duo processor it is very fast due to the 2 GB of RAM (667 MHZ) on board. It is noticeably faster than my desktop Athlon XP2000+ system. So far I haven’t managed to give it a task that takes a long time to process. However, in my line of work you don't have any CPU intensive applications. Provided the hard disk spins at 5400 rpm, with 2GB of RAM and a 1.66GHz Core 2 Duo you’ll have good overall performance.

Heat and Noise:

This is a very quiet laptop. Apart from startup fan noise, you will rarely have the opportunity to hear it. All the heat dissipates on the bottom side of laptop, so your hands won't be sweaty as you type. It doesn't get too hot so it's comfortable to use it on your lap. The only thing that generates some noise is the DVD-RW drive. Although it is not the loudest drive on the market, it can be a little bit annoying.

Keyboard and Touchpad:

The keyboard is a key feature for this laptop. It is very solid and has quick response time. In a word it is “fantastic”. Every key provides firm feedback and feels individual, so there is no flex at all. There are 4 extra buttons on the keyboard (Wireless/Bluetooth switch, Mute, Volume up and Volume down). The Enter button is double sized, which is a good thing, however I would like to see the left Shift button to be a little bit wider. The touchpad is ok for basic use and the mouse buttons below it are made of rubber which is a cool thing. Overall the keyboard and touchpad experience is quite impressive.

Input and Output Ports:

The nx7300 has a standard business palette of ports:

* 3 USB 2.0 ports (1 on the left, 2 on the right)
* PCMCIA card slot (left side)
* FireWirePort (left side)
* Monitor out port (rear side)
* Modem port (left side)
* Ethernet LAN port (left side)
* Microphone jack(right side)
* Headphone line-out (right side)
* Power jack (rear side)
* Kensington lock (left side)

The nx7300 unfortunately lacks a memory card reader.

Wireless:

The included Intel 3945 Pro wireless card works without any problems in both Windows and Linux.

Battery :

The HP nx7300 has a 6-cell (43Wh) high capacity battery which gives it about 3h 45min in word processing tasks with low brightness. If you want to watch DVD's it will give you approximately 2 hours.

If you are a student looking for a reliable, sturdy laptop for things such as software development or just word processing or if you have a tight budget and don't want to bother about Linux compatibility, then look no further, the HP nx7300 will provide you the best bang for the buck. However, be prepared to say goodbye to your gaming collection, because there are slim chances you'll playing any of them. In that case you may want to look for some notebook with a dedicated graphic card solution.

Pros:

* Great build quality
* Excellent keyboard
* Stays cool and quiet under normal use
* Good computing performance in non-3D applications
* Bright display
* Solid battery life

Cons:

* Poor vertical viewing angles
* No dedicated graphic option
* Questionable design
* No memory card reader

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Baterie intre 2 ore si 3:45, nu se incalzeste, nu e zgomotos, are o carcasa solida, o tastatura buna, un ecran luminos, performante decente. In afara de designul groaznic pare ok, mai ales la 22m.


Pai scrie si tu ce configuratie te tenteaza si poate vom primi amandoi sfaturi. Astept sa apara si 1Qul pe aici, daca intra azi pe net. Eu nu ma grabesc, posteaza si dilema ta, tu esti in criza de timp se pare. Ce oferta e? E buna si pt mine? Sau e 1 time only? :P

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Scris 18 august 2007 - 01:45

Nu scriu la laptoape... Sunt extrem de subiectiv... Nu suport urmatoarele firme: HP/Compaq, Fujitsu-Siemens, MSI, Asux... Deci e greu de zis...
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Scris 18 august 2007 - 01:59

Pai si ce mi-ai recomanda, chiar strabatut de un intens feeling de subiectivitate intr-un buget de aprox 20-23m.
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Scris 18 august 2007 - 02:20

Vezi pe la Acer. Am fost foarte multumit de ele. Si nu numai eu.
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Scris 18 august 2007 - 03:24

Nici eu nu prea m-as pronunta la laptop-uri. In primul rand ca eu nu le suport (desi am si eu unul), conteaza foarte mult de ce vrei laptop-ul (am o cunostinta care si-a ales laptopul dupa principiul "care cantareste cel mai putin") si in plus sunt subiectiv (as recomanda doar ThinkPad/Lenovo).

Cateva sfaturi generice insa: incercati ca laptopul pe care il luati sa aibe cam tot ce vreti pe el. Spre deosebire de desktop-uri la laptop-uri nu merge sa adaugi sau sa schimbi dupa decat cu un foarte mare cost. ma refer in special la placa video, unitatea de cd, porturi (usb, net, firewire etc) si alte gadget-uri gen bluethoot/wireless/etc. Asta include si memoria, hdd-ul, procesorul, memoria video. De preferat sa luati cu sistemul de operare (XP sau Vista) inclus in pret. Pentru laptop driverele sunt foarte importante in buna functionare si un sistem updatat la zi te scapa de multe probleme. Foarte importanta este si garantia precum si service-ul in tara. 1 an este o garantie foarte mica. 3 ani este ok .. tinand cont ca peste 3 ani probabil ca il veti schimba oricum.
De asemenea greutatea este importanta mai ales daca il carati des. Al meu are peste 2.5kg si deja am renuntat sa-l mai car dupa mine daca nu am nevoie neaparat de el. In cazul in care il carati va trebuie si o geanta speciala.

Tastatura sa fie una cat mai aproape de cea normala QWERTY (o sa va fie greu sa tot cautati caracterele speciale), touchpad-ul nu mi se pare cea mai buna solutie ca si mouse mai ales ca se poate murdari usor (eu prefer stick-ul) dar aici e chestie de preferinta. Ecranul cat mai mare .. bateria sa tina cat mai mult. Neaparat sa aiba wireless integrat (desi se poate achizitiona un card pcmcia separat) .. din ce in ce mai multe hotspot-uri isi fac aparitia (am gasit un hotspot pe plaja la saturn de exemplu).
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Scris 18 august 2007 - 03:49

Eu am facut curind alegerea pe alt topic....ma rog..... in alti bani..bafta!
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Scris 18 august 2007 - 11:05

ce topic? :mellow:
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 08:26

El a intrebat si a ales intre 2 Sony. Nu se pune, e la alta clasa de pret.
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 11:14

http://www.marketonl...o-t2450-20-ghz/
http://www.marketonl...-t5500-166-ghz/

Pana la urma, care dintre procesoare merita mai mult? CoreDuo 2450 2mb cache fsb533 la 2 GHz sau Core2Duo 5500 fsb667 2mb cache la 1.6GHz? Nu s-ar simti diferenta de ghz sau fsb-ul ar face diferenta?
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 12:48

Aici greseste toata lumea... Core2Duo = 2 core care merg FIECARE la frecventa de 1.6!!! Sau mai exact un C2D la 2.4GHz e mult peste un Pentium normal la 3GHz (exemplu aleator). Nu mai e demult un criteriu frecventa in GHz!
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 02:04

Deci CoreDuo e doar un proc ce merge la 2ghz, pe cand Core2Duo ala are 2 proc ce merg fiecare la 1.6? Tare.
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 02:11

Da si nu, daca nu ai soft sa stie sa lucreze cu ambele, tot degeaba... Si CoreDuo, si Core2Duo au 2 core, my bad :mellow:

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Scris 19 august 2007 - 02:24

Si atunci mai degraba ar merita CoreDuo la 2ghz, nu Core2Duo la 1.6?
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 02:27

Te-ai uitat macar pe specs-urile alea? Ca sa vezi diferentele intre CD si C2D? Offf.....
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 02:28

Da, acum m-am uitat.
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 02:45

In cazul dat de tine C2D la 1.6 e mai bun decat CD la 2Ghz. Iar la C2D cache-ul e per core. Din pacate e cum a zis Viper adica fara software care sa lucreze cu ambele core-uri nu prea vezi diferenta. Insa apar din ce in ce mai multe ..
FSB-ul conteaza doar in momentul in care si memoriile sunt la aceeasi frecventa desi in laptop-uri de regula se pun memorii la aceeasi frecventa cu procesorul (cel putin la marcile care se respecta).
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 02:50

Un mare avantaj al lui C2D fata de CD este consumul redus de energie. Conteaza enorm mai ales la un laptop...
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 03:02

OK. Am inteles, pt o dif mica pana la urma, C2D merita clar. Mersi mult pt sfaturi.

Acer nu prea are modele mai avantajoase acum. La aceeasi bani, adica 22m, nu prea gasesc C2D sau 1gb ram.
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 03:16

Uite exemplu. Si are si Vista...

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Scris 19 august 2007 - 03:20

Da, e ok, insa pt 350roni are in plus Vista si camera web. Vista face diferenta aia in bani, insa eu vreau sa folosesc xp oricum.
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#23 cata69

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Scris 19 august 2007 - 03:40

un topic plin de info ... inutil. the1, nu exista produsul perfect, uneori nici pe hartie. si pt ce-l folosesti tu cauti sa cumperi laptopul ala cu maxim 5-10% performanta in plus, care oricum nu o vei vedea niciodata.

e imperativ sa ai un hard rapid si fiabil (cauta review-uri pe net si vezi aspectul asta), memorie MULTA, procesorul e rareori solicitat la maxim. eu pot face pe centrino la 1.7G enorm de multe, doar pozele mari de peste 10.000 mpx nu le pot manilula, nu din cauza procesorului, ci pt ca nu am RAM destul (doar 512). nu cred ca faci procesare video, sa scoti maxim din procesor si sa conteze. nici ca rulezi nu stiu cate zeci de aplicatii si bagi "afinitati" :D si le imparti.

cauta ceva fiabil si cumpara.
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 03:44

Cu procesorul e ca si cu motorizarea .. nu o folosesti la capacitate maxima decat 5-10% dar e bine sa-i ai. Asta ca sa fac o paralela cu alt topic la fel de disputat :D :D :D
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Scris 19 august 2007 - 03:57

Las' ca Centrino 1.7 am eu, cu tot ce trebuie langa. Si sa vezi ce incepe sa se balbaie cand ai 5-6 aplicatii puternice deschise simultan...

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