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Etapa 3: Marele premiu al Braziliei 2003


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#1 aiculedtzu

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Posted 28 March 2003 - 08:45 AM

Iar eu mi-as dori sa fie Don Juan Castilio de Orange cu al sau bimmer si sper ca Ralf McSchumacher sa faca o figura mai frumoasa. Dar pana la urma important este spectacolul.

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Posted 04 April 2003 - 02:29 AM

Era de asteptat ca idiotii din TVR sa dea o zdreanta la TV in loc de F1. Cred ca nu o sa vad calificarile. Ata ete.
Astept o comportare exemplara a lu Ferrari, de fapt mai degraba astept noua masina mai repede.
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Posted 05 April 2003 - 08:41 AM

Eu sper ca sambata si duminica sa nu avem parte de ploaie.

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Posted 05 April 2003 - 08:17 PM

Oarecum ciudata grila de start. Locul 1 si locul 13 este despartit de doar 0.861 sec. Sa speram ca si cursa va fi la fel de stransa.

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Posted 05 April 2003 - 09:13 PM

Originally posted by dragos_usa
Eu in cursa chiar vreau sa fie ploaie !

Buna performata celor de la Jaguar
Au cam dat-o in bara anul asta cei de la Bmw -- mai nimic --
nici macar vineri nu au facut nimic,nici sambata


Lasa mai Dragos ca sezonul abia a inceput, iar pana se termina este drum lung. Sa vedem cursa de maine.

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Posted 06 April 2003 - 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Oliviu_Hirjan

Originally posted by dragos_usa
remarc din nou ca cei de la Bmw nu fac nimic -- au un motor de nasol


Oare?
Dar McLaren fara Newey unde ar fi? Vrei sa iti spun: acolo unde Toyota si Jag.


Oliviu, lasa-l pe baiat sa se bucure pentru ca inca este ametit de victorie.

In rest ce sa spun, de mult nu am vazut o astfel de cursa ... harababura totala. Insa ceea ce m-a surprins cel mai tare a fost abandonul lui MS, mai ales ce el este " THE RAIN MAN" (asta dupa ce a murit adevaratul maestru pe ploaie ... Ayrton Senna).

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P.S. Dragos, motoarele BMW sunt superioare celor de la Mercedes. Intreaba pe cine vrei tu care se pricepe la F1 cat de cat. Problema majora este sasiul Williams, care nu se ridica la nivelul celor de la Mclaren. Asta este.
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Posted 07 April 2003 - 12:07 AM

O cursa nebuna rau. Asa e regula aia: cistigator e ala care era lider cu 2 ture in urma??? De ce nu cu 1 nenorocita de tura in urma??

N-are sens sa mai comentez norocul alora dela McLaren. Orcim pe pista am fost cei mai rapizi, deci inca stau linistit.:D
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Posted 07 April 2003 - 02:55 AM

Eu am vazut cursa pana in momentul in care au iesit in decor vreo 4 masini (shumi, montoya etc), dupa care a trebuit sa plec. Am citit raportul pusde ssilviu si am inteles cam cum au stat treburile pana la sfarsit.
Asta a fost cea mai ciudata cursa de F1 din cate am vazut eu pana acum. Mai ales in ceea ce priveste deciderea castigatorului. Chiar nu stiam de regula aia. Insa mi-a zis ssilviu ca lui Fisichela la standuri, nici n-am coborat bine din masina, ca i-a si luat foc motorul. Asa ca eu cred ca daca ar fi continuat cursa, ar fi abandonat si el, asa ca ar putea fi multumit di de locul II.
Adevaratul castigator, cel care a fost cel mai mult timp pe primul loc in aceasta cursa .... in poza atasata :D
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Posted 07 April 2003 - 08:33 AM

Originally posted by dragos_usa
aiculedtzu McLaren inca nu a scos noua masina cu cel mai bun motor din F1 ! Mai vedem cine va avea cel mai bun motor
ce pot sa faca cei de la Bmw - sa dea vina pe sasiu :D


Nu doar ei dau vina pe sasiu. Chiar si PAPA FRANK a recunsocut acest lucru. Acuma eu iti inteleg fericirea, dar vom vedea. McLaren multe spune ...

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 02:20 AM

Dragos USA dar dupa cum Barri lua 2 secunde pe tur de la marele DC+McLaren ce ar trebui sa zicem?? Ca Barri trebuia sa cistige , nu?

Intelept postul omului care remarca pericolele la care sint supusi pilotii. Foarte adevarat.

In plus Ferrari ruleaza cu masina de anul trecut, pe ciind McLaren au cam 70% din masina noua (motor, suspensii, aero, sistemul ala nou cu 3amortizoare). Dar nici cea mai rapida masina din lume nu ii salveaza pe Ferrari daca lucrurile continua in maniera asta.
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 01:04 AM

Inca niste explicatii :

'FIA judgement: Fisichella wins Crash GP

Still it is not official, but like auto.t online.de , the sport authority FIA experienced on wants to later explain Friday Giancarlo Fisichella as the winner of the large price of Brazil.


Theoretically the FIA would have 2003 time by 30 November, in order to make the final decision. In accordance with a FIA Insiders is the decision in Paris however already please. One wants to keep only the official routine and to inform the alleged winners Kimi Raeikkoenen and McLaren Mercedes before.

Basis for the subsequent change of the result is the article 179(:) of the sport law. In the fact it means that the running commissioners in the case of a changed state of affairs, which does not admit to them to the Zeittpunkt of the publication of the official Klassements was must meet again. With this date, the FIA for coming Friday (11,4.) at 11 o'clock determined, should actually all well-known and new facts be again examined.

Crucially: When did the running abort take place?

The FIA in its press release grants already now from 9 April that for the time of the running abort the leading Giancarlo Fisichella had already crossed the target line and itself thereby in the 56. Round and no more in the 55. Round found. Thus the conditions would apply after the end 54 to the final result of the large price of Brazil. Circulation. In these 54. Round had already happened to Fisichella in Jordan the McLaren of Kimi Raeikkoenen in the last curve before start and a goal.


For Romans it is the first Grand Prix success in 110. Formula 1-Rennen of its career. For Eddie Jordan is calculated it fourth victory of his team - and that in 200. Grand Prix since the entrance into the formula 1 in the year 1991.


Into the tube looks now the team McLaren Mercedes, which must be content with place two. On the new final conditions addressed, Mercedes Sportchef Norbert Haug meant: "that is interesting, on Wednesday too experienced, we drove how many rounding on Sunday."
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 01:40 AM

Stewarzii au cam luat ei in mina situatia si au scos-o ca, cistigator e cel care conduce cu 2 ture in urma. Ma indoiesc ca o asemenea idiotenie exista in regulament. De ce nu cu 5 sau 10 ture in urma daca e sa o luam asa??

Logic era ca, cistigator sa fie cel care conducea cu o tura in urma. Si mai logic este ca, cistigator sa fie ala care conduce in momentul intreruperii cursei, indiferent de situatia anterioara.

Poate are cineva regulamentu sa ne lamureasca insa oricum a-i lua-o chestia asta din Brazilia a fost o idiotenie imensa, cam ca aia cind Schuey a cistigat in Anglia pe linia boxelor.
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 12:32 AM

pai si ferrari nu e tot cu 70 la suta din masina noua?http://www.garajul.ro/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rockets.gifhttp://www.garajul.ro/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/010.gif



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Posted 11 April 2003 - 02:52 PM

Articolul:

"Stewards of the Brazilian GP reconvened at the FIA HQ in Paris, France this morning where, as expected, they overturned the original outcome of Sunday's race, announcing Jordan driver Giancarlo Fisichella as the rightful winner.

Last weekend's race results came under review after the FIA "received evidence" suggesting that there was an error in the timing and the Jordan driver had started his 56th lap before the race was red-flagged, instead of his 55th as previously thought.

The new result means the first ever win for Giancarlo and the fourth for Jordan, and he was Italy's first GP winner since Riccardo Patrese in Japan for Williams in 1992. Meanwhile the McLaren of Kimi Raikkonen has been demoted to second. It also means that in the first three races of the 2003 season, we have seen three different winners.

Under FIA rules, the final race positions in a red flag situation are those in effect two laps before the lap on which the race was stopped. Raikkonen was leading after the 53rd lap but the FIA confirmed Fisichella had already started his 56th lap before the race was stopped. That meant the result had to be based on positions at the end of the 54th lap when the Italian was leading Raikkonen and Renault driver Fernando Alonso.

Team chief Eddie Jordan had prompted the FIA to order a review after sending them details of Jordan's own timekeeping. This showed Fisichella had completed one more lap than he had originally been credited for and on FIA's own countback procedure it meant Fisichella and not Raikkonen was the winner. This is the first time a Grand Prix result has been changed without a driver being disqualified or receiving a time penalty. "
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 02:58 PM

1. Giancarlo Fisichella - Jordan
2. Kimi Raikkonen - McLaren
3. Fernando Alonso � Renault
4. David Coulthard - McLaren
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen - Sauber
6. Jacques Villeneuve - BAR
7. Ralf Schumacher - Williams
8. Jarno Trulli � Renault
9. Mark Webber - Jaguar
10. Cristiano Da Matta - Toyota

World championship standings

Drivers:
1. Kimi Raikkonen - 24pts
2. David Coulthard � 15
3. Fernando Alonso � 14
4. Giancarlo Fisichella � 10
5. Jarno Trulli � 9
6. Juan Pablo Montoya � 8
7. Rubens Barrichello � 8
8. Michael Schumacher � 8
9. Ralf Schumacher � 8
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen � 7
11. Jacques Villeneuve � 3
12. Jenson Button � 2
13. Nick Heidfeld - 1
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