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[LaScurt]

Care-s concurentii aia?
Opel Astra H sedan exista?
VW are alt sedan pentru Golf, ii zice Jetta.

[MikeTekRacing]

si jetta nu a aparut chiar la lansarea lui golf 5....
c4 nu are sedan, astra nu are (h sedan ala e un inlocuitor al lui g), 307 nu are
focus are, megane are...

Aceasta postare a fost editata de MikeTekRacing: 19 decembrie 2006 - 11:24

[CrisArkgoth]

http://elmundomotor....7_sedan_xxl.jpg
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[andrei041]

C4 si 307, in variantele sedan, nu sunt oferite pe piata romaneasca. Si am impresia ca nici in vest ...

[the1]

Boon... si care dintre alea se vinde in RO sau macar in Europa? Doar astra-ul va ajunge si la noi.

[LaScurt]

Doamne, cat de ugly poa' sa fie 307 sedan...

[the1]

Da, e groaznic. Dar, sa revenim la Cee'd. Inteleg ca garantia mamut va fi valabila si in RO. Cand vor sosi primele exemplare si la noi, abia in martie?

[Dee]

Va crizati inutil.. mai toti producatorii ofera la inceput varianta hatchback doar iar apoi, dupa studiu de piata si respectiv succes, insucces, cerere baga si un sedan derivat din hatch. Cum Kia are si pe Rio un hatch si un sedan probabil va baga si un Ceed Sedan.
Astra are un sedan dupa 3 ani de la lansare pt ca numele, Astra H Sedan, ne spune ca este vb de un Sedan derivat din H. indiferent pe cine inlocuieste (sa nu uitam ca G-ul are si hatch si sedan si nu renunta inca Opel la el).

[the1]

Cum nu renunta inca Opel la el... G-ul s-a scos sa se va scote din fabricatie f curand.

[valentin_iordan]

http://62.250.9.97/dealer/amersfoort/
poate ne lamureste careva cum sta Ceed cu pretul in Olanda ...sunt ddp ? sau nu ?

la noi inca nu stie nimeni ce pret va avea Ceed ...
in rest la noi va apare cel mai probabil in martie-aprilie

Aceasta postare a fost editata de valentin_iordan: 27 decembrie 2006 - 09:26

[the1]

Olanda are taxe foarte mari si e normal ca pretul sa fie atat de ridicat.

[valentin_iordan]

Olanda are taxe foarte mari si e normal ca pretul sa fie atat de ridicat.

ultima info de la KIA ROM AUTO este ca din 2007 vor face si buy-back dar doar cu masini cu data de fabricatie mai recenta.
am fost placut impresionat si de interiorul de la noul CARENS . astept cu mare interes si un Carens diesel de drive-test.

[the1]

Pai ce te-a mai impresionat in mod placut, in afara de Carens?

[valentin_iordan]

Pai ce te-a mai impresionat in mod placut, in afara de Carens?

la KIA mai nimic in rest...
ceva revizii gratuite timp de 3 ani al RIO si nu numai
garantie 7 ani la Ceed
ci ceva materiale promotionale pt clientii casei.
sper ca nu ai incercat sa fi ironic cu intrebarea ta.

Aceasta postare a fost editata de valentin_iordan: 27 decembrie 2006 - 10:17

[the1]

Materiale promotionale? Like what?

[the1]

Vardie zice ca Cee'd 1.4 ar putea pleca de la 9000 CIP? Ar fi ceva...

[lexus]

Nu prea mi-a placut in realitate.








Le: In poze arata chiar bine, acum ca le vad, dar in realitate e plictisitoare, parca are liniile prea sterse si cuminti. Unde e conceptul?

Aceasta postare a fost editata de lexus: 15 ianuarie 2007 - 07:36

[the1]

Ai intrat in magazin, ai stat in Cee'd?

[lexus]

Nu.

[the1]

Thx pt poze, anyway.

[the1]

Test complet din Autocar. 4 stele.



http://www.autocarma...-113-LS/223894/

Kia Cee'd 1.6 crdi 115hp

Test Date 24 January 2007 Price When New TBA

For Packaging, diesel punch, seven-year warranty

Against Ride refinement, pricing, poor front seats

Intro
Kia wants to be more than just a bit-part player in the European car market. To achieve this aim, it has invested in a new factory at Zilina in Slovakia. It’s an audacious move, but one rooted in common sense. One of the great barriers of acceptance to the European market is the notion that cars built in distant, eastern lands are in some way inferior.

The first offering from this new production facility is the Cee’d family hatchback. Its intended market penetration in the UK isn’t huge (around 10,000 units, or a two per cent market share) but the ramifications of this European-designed and built Korean hatch will be felt for years. Because this is a car that comes with a seven-year, 93,000-mile warranty.

Other than the abject irritation of those intending to use its name in print on a regular basis and a poorly constructed pun, there is no real meaning to the name Cee’d. In fact ignore both the model designation and the company’s name and simply look at this car as a nameless machine. Not a bad looker, is it? The proportions are right, the styling attractive. Kia has never achieved these two goals before.

Design
It is the 1.6-litre CDRi under the spotlight in this test, using the same turbodiesel motor as found in the Carens. Its 1582cc allow it to produce 114bhp and 190lb ft of torque, all the while being Euro4 compatible.

There is nothing extraordinary about this engine, apart from one small endorsement. Kia is so confident of its longevity that it is willing to underwrite any potential failure from inlet manifold to driveshaft for the first seven years of the car’s life. Even for hardened enthusiasts, there comes a point when such mind-boggling support becomes as impressive as the spec sheet of the latest V12 Ferrari. Right now, rival manufacturers are wondering how it can be achieved economically.

Otherwise, the Cee’d is a conventional Euro-hatch: a two-box shape with lifting tailgate, MacPherson struts at the front and clumsily titled rear suspension aimed to dupe people into thinking that it’s fully independent, when in fact it is just a posh torsion beam. Still, when you could buy one in 2007, cover 12,000 miles a year and still make a legitimate warranty claim for a new engine or gearbox come late 2013, perhaps one shouldn’t bicker about rear axle sophistication.

On the road
Smoother, quieter and punchier engines exist in this class, but the Cee’d’s engine is game. It gives its best below 4000rpm and peak torque appears from a handy 1900rpm.

Performance is perfectly adequate, though not quite up with the very high standard set by the class leaders. Rest to 60mph requires one gear change and 10.3sec, 0-100mph is a 37.9sec affair and the 30-70mph time is a reasonable 10.6sec. But as usual, the cold, empirical surroundings of the proving ground don’t give an accurate reflection of the real-world performance of this car. Using between 2000rpm and 4000rpm, it covers ground at an impressive rate. The fourth gear 40-60mph time of 6.5sec and the 10.0sec 50-70mph run in fifth are indicative of this accessible performance.

Furthermore, it’s a powertrain that builds a pleasing rhythm over A-roads. The gear shift is relatively long, but the action is pleasant, even if the metal gear lever is an odd shape. The clutch is light and the pedals well positioned. Noise levels are fairly well contained.

Broadly speaking, the Cee'd's chassis offers a very similar level of competence to the engine and transmission. Ask of it reasonable questions, and it will respond well enough.

The good work begins with a very accurate electrically assisted steering rack. It’s not too fast off the straight ahead, and even though there is little feel to speak of, the Cee’d is one of those cars that immediately feels agile and easy to place. That’s a key attribute on UK roads. Try to extract too much from the Cee’d and it doesn’t work quite so well. Push hard and you’ll discover that the car is over-sprung and under-damped, causing it to be deflected by shorter wave imperfections. It doesn’t enjoy being grabbed by the scruff of the neck, but then again its market positioning would suggest that driving in such a manner is rather irrelevant. More importantly, though, ride comfort is slightly below the class average.

Forget chassis composure and jewel-effect headlights: the surest sign that Kia has joined the Euro-hatch ranks is the appearance of soft-touch interior plastics. There are some very appealing aspects to this cabin. The heater controls, for example, are a fine blend of usability and style. The instruments are clear and attractive and there’s a socket for your iPod. The seats offer little support, but weren’t uncomfortable over long distances.

In short, forget all notions of Korean crumminess; the Cee’d consigns most of that to the history books. One other notable and laudable inclusion is the indicator function remaining on the right-hand column stalk. It takes a while to become accustomed to this set-up, but the facility to change gear and indicate at the same time becomes invaluable and exposes the usual placement of this function on the left-hand side in right-hand vehicles as an ergonomic disaster.

Rear-seat passengers are well catered for. The bench is comfortable, though like every other in the class lacking in under-thigh support. Boot space, at 340 litres, is good.

With a claimed 60.1mpg over the combined cycle and 125g/km CO2 emissions placing it in band C, the Cee’d won’t be expensive to run. Naturally we couldn’t match that, but we did average 37.9mpg, which included a 23.3mpg stint at the track.

All Cee’ds come with six airbags and rear ISOFIX points, and top-spec trim adds ESP.

And then there’s the small matter of cost. The Cee’d isn’t the giveaway people familiar with Kia's other offerings might have expected. Then again, its credentials dictate that it deserves to be priced more in line with the competition. This car has a list price of �14,245, and a similarly specified Ford Focus would cost �17,390, although a large discount could be scored on the Ford.

So rather than trade on crude engineering and cheap pricing, Kia’s strategy is now based around competitive dynamics, attractive pricing and the allure of that seven-year warranty.
Verdict
8 stars out of 10

If the major European manufacturers were worried when they discovered the exceptional warranty package Kia would be offering with this car, then the Cee’d’s overall appeal should compound those fears. It’s not a class-leader in any category, but it does just about everything more than competently. It also looks good and is attractively priced, if not quite the absolute bargain we might have expected.











Not bad!

Aceasta postare a fost editata de the1: 24 ianuarie 2007 - 04:33

[the1]

Cand o aparea si la noi ca am inceput sa ma plictisesc deja...?

[oaspetele]

mi se pare mie sau e cam cheapo interiorul ?

[MikeTekRacing]

the surest sign that Kia has joined the Euro-hatch ranks is the appearance of soft-touch interior plastics.

[the1]

Singurul detaliu cheapo din interior mi se pare schimbatorul de viteze arhaic.