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[Artanis]

bine mai Artanis, o sa imi iau GT-R si te pun sa stai pe locurile din spate la un drum Bucuresti-Bv, deal ?

Deal ! Eu nu ma supar
Oricum, din cate am citit, este una printre cele mai confortabile supersportive (pentru toate locurile)

[aphedrone]

Deci ... se poate. Se poate construi o masina care:
- arata bine la exterior
- frumos si inchegat la interior
- desi are badge si istorie nu abuzeaza de chestia asta asa cum o fac absolut toti ceilalti
- e cea mai iute
- dinamica excelenta
- are acelasi pret cu un A4 full-full
- nu e nemteasca

Se cheama ca a rupt gura targului. Ca si cum te duci in piata si vinzi cirese la 50k kg cand ceilalti vand aceleasi cirese sau chiar mai naspa la 200k kg.

E foarte interesant. Acum ca exista pct de reper, mai mult ca niciodata va fi foarte clar cat inseamna tehnologie si cat marketing pur din pretul unui Aston, Porsche, Lambo, RS, M, AMG, Fe sau chiar Veyron

Sa luam exemplul R8 care costa (euro) 112,000. GT-R probabil o sa vina la 50,000. Asta inseamna - la un calcul simplu si superficial, dar de efect - ca la R8 platesti 60k pe badge. De fapt chiar un pic mai mult pentru ca nu sunt la acelasi nivel tehnologic

Acelasi lucru e valabil si pentru ceilalti. Ganditi-va la un 911T

[oaspetele]

Allowing for currency fluctuations, it costs about �58,000.
adica 80 000 euro. cel putin.

[aphedrone]

Nu m-as baza pe preturile din UK pentru conversie. Sau sa spuna cineva preturile din US pentru R8. Europa, ca un super-stat socialist ce este, nu reprezinta un exemplu de concurenta loiala si transparenta a politicii de preturi.

Aceasta postare a fost editata de aphedrone: 14 februarie 2008 - 12:47

[Fanatic]

Cu siguranta NU va fi 50k Euro ... Eu cred ca sigur peste 70k

[cata69]

tot e putin, pe langa porsche, sunt masini mai proaste care costa foarte foarte mult (x00.000), incercati niste configuratii. oare iar va fi interzisa in state?

[the1]

Cu putina silinta se poate lua si un Touareg la 100k.

[aphedrone]

O comparatie la botul calului:

GT-R - $60k

M3 - $60k
M5 - $85k
M6 - $100k
RS4 - $67k
RS6 - nu il dau, dar probabil vreo $90k
R8 - nu il dau. probabil l-au scos dupa testul TG. am gasit pe edmunds $110k
911 turbo - $126k
911 Carrera S - $83k
DB9 - $163k
Jaguar XK - $75k
Gallardo - $180k
Murcielago - $310k
Maserati GT - $100k
CLK 63 AMG - $100k
SL 65 AMG - $188k

Acum e un pic mai clar cat costa tehnologia si cat ... restul.

[bigfoot17ro]

SL 65 AMG - $188k

incredibil

nu cred ca gt-r e 60k

[Artanis]

Actually, pleaca de la $69,850
http://www.worldcarf...on-pre-order-us

[cata69]

incredibil

nu cred ca gt-r e 60k

http://www.rsportsca...s/m_sl65amg.asp

http://www.rsportsca...ars/audi_r8.asp

http://www.rsportsca...s/911_turbo.asp

[aphedrone]

Actually, pleaca de la $69,850
http://www.worldcarf...on-pre-order-us

Scuze de dezinformare

[cata69]

nu-i nimic, preturile sunt pe acolo. SL e obscen de scump.

[Artanis]

Ultimate 550 hp GT-R V-Spec
Dopat la 550CP si cu 150kg mai usor, now, that's serious

[bigfoot17ro]

nu-i nimic, preturile sunt pe acolo. SL e obscen de scump.

scuze de off dar chiar nu credeam sa fie asa de scump

oricum de departe masina asta ma cucerit total... the best alceva nu pot spune

[Cristian]

Scoop! Nissan Studies GT-R-Based Four Door

By Mike Connor

A senior Nissan source has confirmed the company is studying the possibility of producing a high-performance four-door sedan based on the exotic Nissan GT-R hardware. The source suggested the car may be sold as an Infiniti.

Producing a four-door GT-R is certainly feasible, though it wouldn't be cheap. Although the GT-R coupe is based on Nissan's flexible FM (front midship) platform, it is what one analyst calls "a major deviation" from that platform's architecture, to the point where it's known internally as PM (premium midship).

The PM platform could be stretched to allow an extra set of doors and useable rear passenger space, while keeping the existing suspension pickup points, powertrain mountings, and other sheetmetal. This would enable the four-door to share a lot of the GT-R's mechanical hardware, including the 480-horsepower twin-turbo 3.8-liter VR38 V-6 engine, all wheel drive, and the rear-mounted six-speed DSG-style auto-clutch transmission.

However a sedan version would require a new bodyside, plus expensive revisions to the carbon fiber intensive front structure, so while Nissan could save some money through component sharing with the GT-R, it's likely that a sedan variant would cost $3000 to $5000 more. One alternative would be to make the car with a conventional steel body (it would add weight, but Nissan would want the GT-R coupe to remain its performance flagship anyway).

The drawings here are purely illustrative; it's unlikely Nissan would retain too many GT-R cues on an Infiniti-badged car. Nissan knows a four-door GT-R would have about as much credibility in Japan as a four-door Corvette would here in the U.S. Furthermore, American and European buyers likely would balk at the idea of paying $85,000 for a sedan with Nissan badges. Making the car an Infiniti could help solve both problems, and it would give the brand the halo vehicle it lacks.

A high-tech, high-performance Infiniti sedan also could serve as a halo car for the expansion of Nissan's luxury brand into Europe, China, Japan, and other world markets. After dithering for a decade or more, Toyota has finally made Lexus a global brand, and its new IS-F sedan signals an entry into the premium high-performance segment dominated by Mercedes-Benz's AMG and BMW's M cars.

The significance of both moves won't have been lost on Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn.

Sursa: Motortrend.com



Scary Nenoroceste concurenta daca or sa scoata o astfel de masina!
Atentie mare M5 , AMG , Audi si ce o mai fi pe acolo ...

Aceasta postare a fost editata de Cristian: 20 februarie 2008 - 12:35

[ska]

awsome

[Frank SF]

now this one, if they do it, I would really buy !

[neron]

...
Scary Nenoroceste concurenta daca or sa scoata o astfel de masina!
Atentie mare M5 , AMG , Audi si ce o mai fi pe acolo ...

Stai tu linistit, sunt convins ca M5, AMG si RS-urile nu vor simti nicio diferenta in piata cand va iesi GT-R. Cel putin nu in partea asta de lume. Chiar sunt curios cand/daca vor aparea pe la noi GT-R-uri (in caz ca se vor vinde in Europa).

[ska]

am vazut Best Motoring 2008/3

deci Gallardo Superlegerra a facut GT-R pe circuitul lor pe Tsukuba
si GT-R a fost condus de Keiitchi Tsuchya
preview
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IzFYTguJ-8o

[Artanis]

Totusi, tinand cont de raportul putere/greutate, GT-R a batut nume grele:

March 2008 bestmotoring Tukuba battle Result:

1st Gallardo SL:1,01,599/1330kg/530ps
2nd NISSAN GT-R:1,02,125/1740kg/480ps
3rd 911GT3:1,05,173/1395kg/415ps
4th NSX-R:1,05,013/1270kg/280ps
5tn 911T:1,05,226/1620kg/480ps

[ska]

410kg in minus si 50cp in plus si-au spus cuvantul.
oricum GT-R nu s-a lasat usor

mas surprinde si 911T pe 5, care totusi nu e de ici de colo. dar pe un circuit mic si virajat precum cel de la Tsukuba, poate a avut de "suferit".

[cata69]

nu stiu cat de concludente sunt testele astea pana la urma. mi se par mai misto alea cu stig, chiar daca si aia au un circuit ciudat. ce nu e luat in calcul e ca GT-R se lupta cu cele mai tari versiuni acolo, nu alea normale.

[ska]

grila de start :
1) 911T
2) NSX-R
3) GT3
4) GT-R
5) Gallardo SL

avand in vedere diferenta de 410kg ( care mie mi se pare ENORM !!!! ) si 50cp in plus in favoarea Gallardo SL, GT-R s-a tinut bine si a pierdut doar la 0,5 sec... ceea ce inseamna totusi ceva, pentru un circuit virajat

[cata69]

adica te cam pune pe ganduri cata putere la roata au ceilalti.