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[Relu]

La sistemul "launch control" nu se poate actiona asupra frinelor. Asa cum spui, totul este soft si lucreaza exclusiv asupra dozarii puterii.
Sunt multe masini care au sisteme "antipatinaj" care lucreaza impreuna cu ABS-ul si frineaza roata care pierde aderenta. Insa lucreaza numai la viteze mici in jur de 20-30 km/h. La viteze peste limita setata se dezactiveaza automat.
La VW de ex, se numeste EDS.

[Frank SF]

Ieri seara am iesit cu masina prin oras si m-am dat in toate felurile si directiile in super-viteza. Am facut 50 km in oras in vreo 2 ore de fitiiala, si cu unele opriri

Este senzationala acceleratia, masina tisneste ca o racheta la orice apasare a acceleratiei in zona de peste 2000 rpm, turbo lag-ul este ca si inexistent, insesizabil de om, datorita presupun twin-scroll-ului. Aderenta pe curbele luate in viteza este fenomenala, am luat niste curbe la 90 grade cu viteze de 100+ km/h....

In contrapartida, azi am fost la cumparaturi la Carrefour tot cu masina, trafic aglomerat, s-a comportat foarte in regula, plus am putut sa pun toate cumparaturile in portbagaj, deci este foarte OK si pentru uz zilnic.

cred de de acum incolo in weekend-uri nu ma voi prea mai da jos din masina...

[mol]

Frank, o fi masina de familist si nu stim noi...

Presupun c-ai luat doar diamante si icre negre...

Ceva inscrieri pentru drive-test(pentru garajisti)?

[mol]

...comparatia cu racheta,e cam deplasata...
Si eu am impresia ca-mi trage masina bine,dar realitatea consta in acel 0-100.Tu-l ai undeva pe la 7 sec.,parca.
Realizeaza ca unii forumisti il au pe la 5,7.

[Frank SF]

mol, demarajul declarat este in 6.2 secunde, dupa ce ies din rodaj o sa incerc sa il si probez.

mai sus e vorba de niste opinii subiective din partea mea, pentru ca in general toate opiniile umane sunt subiective. Vroiam doar sa subliniez ca este o masina foarte sportiva dar poate fi folosita si ca unica masina de zi cu zi (normal, fiind realizata pe platforma si caroseria unei compacte).


azi la intilnirea garajul.ro a trebuit sa o intind repede si nu am putut da pe nimeni cu masina, insa data viitoare cu mare placere, poate ies si din rodaj pina atunci.

Mai jos inca un review:

http://cars.uk.msn.c...umentid=1375418

Renault Megane F1 R26 (2006 onwards model)
Renault Megane F1 R26 (Image � Renault)
By Christopher Hubbard, contributor


The first thing you�re likely to notice about this latest Renaultsport Megane is the stickers. This is perhaps a little bit unfortunate, but hey, who are we to argue with Formula 1 world champions?
What�s with the name?

The good news is they�re optional, but if there�s a Renault Megane that can safely shout about its potential it�s this one. The same reasoning just about takes care of the name. Renault Megane Renaultsport 230 F1 Team R26 is, by consensus, something of a mouthful. It could have been longer still. Deciphering the name is fairly simple, though: 230 is the power output in PS, RenaultSport is the association with Renault�s competition department, and the last bit refers to the celebratory relationship with the firm�s 2006 R26 Formula 1 chassis.

Of course, there are details missing that even a name this long can�t cover. Like the turbocharger under the bonnet, the Brembo front brake upgrade, and most notably the addition of a traction-aiding limited slip differential. But then, even a Megane has only so much boot space for badging. Rounding off the obvious cosmetic alterations are a set of 18-inch anthracite coloured alloys and, following the current vogue, matching dark-hued mirrors and bright red brake callipers. Ditch the decals and you could even accuse Renault of being too subtle.

Fortunately, the wicked (in traditional as well as colloquial sense) sounding exhaust, further modified from the �225� version, ensures anyone outside the car is left in no doubt this is a high-performance derivative. Just a shame you can�t really hear all the accelerative crackle and over-run pop from inside the cabin. You do get a bit of a whistle from the turbo at low speeds, but once you start moving it�s really not that aurally exciting � nothing like a Clio 197 at full chat, for example � and there�s quite a bit of wind noise. If it bothers you too much there�s always the 60w six-speaker stereo.

On the road

Or you could just concentrate on enjoying the driving experience. With a 2.0-litre turbocharged four providing motive power, the quick Meganes of this generation have never exactly been slouches. This version boasts a modest seeming 5bhp advantage over the outgoing 225 F1 Team edition. Revised engine mapping and sportier exhaust result in 227bhp at 5,500rpm and 229lb ft of torque at 3,000rpm, 90% of which is available all the way from 2,000 to 6,000rpm. 0-62mph takes just 6.2 seconds � 0.1 seconds faster than before � and find somewhere long and legal enough and this three-door hatchback should hit 147mph.

Even in bare figures it�s pretty impressive, but what really makes this car worthy of the attention-grabbing decal-job is the chassis. Renault�s engineers have managed to make the limited slip diff work so effectively that at times it�s hard to notice it�s even there. If you�re looking for excitement Ford Focus RS-style, then this isn�t the car for you � no wrists were snapped during the making of this first drive, even while traversing some particularly lumpy French mountain roads.
Get a grip

Foot down in a straight line on a dry road and your arms will remain securely in their sockets, although if you�re trying really hard the car will wriggle ever so slightly; feed the power in mid-bend and instead of understeer or an aggressive diff-led dive for the apex you just get this fantastic sensation of the front tyres keying even harder into the tarmac and pulling the car round the corner. In fact, the Megane 230 shows a remarkable determination to keep on tracking in your chosen direction no matter how scarred the road-surface.

This, and the seamless operation of the differential, is all down to the suspension changes. A revision of the �Cup� settings, this car gets specific springs and dampers, a different front anti-rollbar and rear suspension layout, and perhaps most significantly, reduced bump-stops for increased suspension travel. Bump-steer is all but eliminated without leaving you feeling disconnected from what�s going on beneath you. It does ride rather hard, but the trade-off is comfort for body-control, a flat cornering stance and the impression that understeer is only going to happen if you�re being really silly.

Best of all it remains nicely consistent, a situation that continues across all the major control surfaces. Convincingly weighty steering with accurate feel is complimented by the enormous (312mm discs at the front) ventilated brakes, which offer progressive bite. The six-speed manual gearbox hasn�t got the shortest throw and is probably the car�s weakest dynamic element � but is hardly obstructive. Swift progress is assured, and with such a torque-rich delivery, you don�t even need to keep the 230 manically rung out at all times to achieve it.

Keeping you in place

Back on the inside, a set of Recaro sports seats prevent the front occupants from being thrown about during enthusiastic manoeuvres, while the instrument binnacle is certainly clear if not exactly exciting. It�s a better lot that the front-seat passenger, however, who will face an uninteresting staredown with a large, flat, dull expanse of dark-colour dashboard if the scenery outside is passing too quickly for their liking. Other sporty accoutrements are the alloy pedal surfaces, contoured steering wheel and a numbered metal plaque stuck near the handbrake, while further useful enhancements include bi-xenon headlamps and an emissions rating reduced from 209g/km to only 200g/km.
ESP is standard but entirely switchable, which should find appeal among the trackday crowd. Priced at �19,570, it�s going for exactly the same amount as its predecessor. When you factor in all the extra performance enhancing hardware, that seems like a bargain. The build-quality is decent, if not quite to Golf standards, while the basic Megane is amongst the safest cars in the class. If you�re after a 200bhp+ hot hatch it thoroughly deserves to be on your shortlist, though we�ll reserve full judgement until we�ve sampled one on a proper British B-road � and in the wet. But a cult car in the making? We certainly think so.


entru cine se indoieste daca Renault Megane Renaultsport Formula 1 Team R26 este sau nu o masina sport, iata mai jos compania selecta in care a fost "short-listed" de prestigioasa revista EVO UK pentru CoTY 2006:

http://www.evo.co.uk...f_the_year.html

Renault Megane Renaultsport Formula 1 Team R26
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iar in clasamentul final (am revista acasa), Renault-ul s-a situat pe locul 5 sau 6 din 10 masini....

[cata69]

asta pt ca e cea mai rapida din clasa ei.

[mol]

DA.

La 6,2 ,n-am ce comenta. Mi-a fost lene sa-i caut 0-100.

Din punctul meu de vedere,elita(supercars) incepe sub 5 sec. De la cifra asta in jos,obtinerea unui plus de performanta inseamna multe...

[Frank SF]

am spus ceva putin gresit: 6.2 secunde este timpul 0-60 mph. Timpul 0-100 km/h este 6.5 secunde.

[cata69]

iti dai seama ce grav e asta.

[DOOM]

Pentru secunda aia pana sub 5 deja pretul masinii se dubleaza sau chiar mai rau...iar intretinerea nici nu mai vorbesc.Exista insa si alte solutii pentru asa ceva - resoftare.Am mers acum cateva saptamani cu un S3 de 320 de cai .....nu cred ca avea sub 5 dar oricum m-am speriat de cum tragea.

[cata69]

ce secunda sub 5? el are tractiune fata si totusi cu tot LSD-ul, exista niste limite. apoi pe curbe s-ar putea sa fie mai rapida cu o putere controlabila.

ps. S3 trage bine oricum, dar sa cobori secundele astea dupa o vreme e nevoie de cresteri mari de putere, care nu te ajuta decat la liniute.

[Frank SF]

tocmai, motorul lui Rene Jaune s-ar preta la resoftare pina la 265 CP (ca sa il enervez pe un amic de-al meu care are S3...) insa nu vreau sa fac asta pentru ca ar fi prea multi cai pentru puntea fata plus ca mi-e teama sa nu stric echilibrul excelent al masinii la ora actuala sasiu-motor-LSD.

pentru o experienta foarte placuta de sofat sportiv, masina este excelenta, si abia astept sa fac un drum pina la munte, pe sosele virajaaaateee.....

[mol]

Pentru secunda aia pana sub 5 deja pretul masinii se dubleaza sau chiar mai rau...iar intretinerea nici nu mai vorbesc.Exista insa si alte solutii pentru asa ceva - resoftare.Am mers acum cateva saptamani cu un S3 de 320 de cai .....nu cred ca avea sub 5 dar oricum m-am speriat de cum tragea.

...si,te-ar bate un gand?

-stand in dreapta,senzatiile sunt usor amplificate.Daca l-ai condus tu,si-ai avut o asemenea reactie,e clara diferenta.

Aceasta postare a fost editata de mol: 28 ianuarie 2008 - 08:30

[DOOM]

Nu ma enervez Frank , si sunt de acord cu tine si de aceea nici eu n-am facut pasul respectiv...masina e ok asa cum e.In rest toti ati inteles gresit: am zis ca fata de o masina de 6 secunde una de 5 (care poate fi considerata supercar) costa dublu (sau mai mult)si nu merita investitia pentru ca daca se vrea neaparat se poate obtine performanta aia mai ieftin...(sau asa am eu impresia acum).
Si nu ma bate nici un gand mol m-am calmat
La S3-ul respectiv am stat in spate si eram 4 in masina deci oricum masina era doldora si nu dadea tot ce putea ....si totusi
Frank , iti urez cat mai multi kilometrii de placere cu Rene !

[cata69]

supercar nu e nici M3, care e o masina destul de misto, nici RS4. supercar e cu totul altceva si de foarte putine ori sunt si practice, iar de cele mai multe ori sunt de colectie. niste chichinete din astea sunt mult mai fun si cum spune frank SF, te poti duce si la supermarket sau in cazul meu poti avea linistit o familie.

[mol]

Poti dezvolta nitel notiunea de practic,vis-a-vis de supercar?

[oaspetele]

frank, mii de scuze ca iti poluez topicul, dar vreau sa il intreb pe doom : S3-ul ala avea legatura cu superchips ?

[Frank SF]

Nu ma enervez Frank , si sunt de acord cu tine si de aceea nici eu n-am facut pasul respectiv...masina e ok asa cum e.
....
Frank , iti urez cat mai multi kilometrii de placere cu Rene !

Stiu ca tu esti de acord cu mine, nu ma gindeam atit la tine cit la amicul meu Victor cel cu S3-ul alb cu CXP...

Multumesc de urare, stii ce situatie "aiurea" este, ies din casa, am un BMW in fata, si eu ma uit la el si pe urma ma uit cu jind la un Renault, si imi doresc mult mai mult sa ma dau cu Renault-ul.... ! (ma rog, ideea ca pe timpul saptaminii ma fitii cu BMW-ul ca deh, e masina de servici, Rene Jaune e de vacanta si de weekend, da ma maninca rau talpa sa ma dau cu ea...).

[DOOM]

S3-ul ala e al lui nadir ( de pe vwforum).Iar pe Victor il cunosc si eu , ne-am intalnit la Hot Hatch Meeting.Iar despre discutiile cu supercaruri....m-am exprimat gresit, trebuia sa zic masini sport, oricum suntem offtopic, topicul e despre Rene.

Aceasta postare a fost editata de DOOM: 29 ianuarie 2008 - 01:02

[mol]

Intrebarea ii era adresata lui Cata,dar probabil nu-i practica...

[cata69]

frank, mii de scuze ca iti poluez topicul, dar vreau sa il intreb pe doom : S3-ul ala avea legatura cu superchips ?

vrei sa-l provoci pe aicu cumva? pot sa-ti spun eu de pe acum ca nu ai nici o sansa.

[oaspetele]

nici nu ma gandesc. eu nu provoc pe nimeni.
eram doar curios.

[Frank SF]

daca e S3-ul lui Nadir, e chipat la SKN....

Dar ce atita vorba de S3-uri pe forumul Renault Megane R26 ?!

[cata69]

gelozia, ce sa-i faci.

[Frank SF]

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=4CD_DdQyPMU